“Um, yeah. realized at some point, like, oh, yeah, this is, this is familiar. You know, computing used to be fun. And then it sort of wasn’t fun anymore, but this is fun again. And as I thought about that, I realized that, you know, that the mouse is antisocial, The GUI is antisocial, So what’s that mean? you have a problem to solve and you solve it with the GUI. What do you have? A problem solved. But when you solve it with a command line interface in a scripting environment, you have an artifact. And all of a sudden that artifact can be shared with someone.”